Aaron Kennard: Welcome to the Truly Amazing Life
Show, where we get super real about the challenges and the beauty of what it
means to live a truly amazing life. I'm your host Aaron Kennard and my guest
today is New York Times best selling author Steve Olsher. I had the pleasure of meeting Steve recently at an
event called Awesomeness Fest, put on by the amazing visionary Vishen Lakhiani of Mindvalley, and I'm really looking forward to sharing our
post Awesomeness fest discussion with you here today. I think you're going to
find this call refreshing and fascinating because you're about to hear from
someone who is in limelight, whose passion and gift is to help others find
their gifts. And yet, even though he's living his passion, has had and continous to have many challenges of his own. I think
you're going to enjoy this raw, just open discussion with Steve about living to
the grind and I look forward to hearing your thoughts on it. After the call hit
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life. Alright, let's jump in the discussion with Steve.
Aaron Kennard: Steve Thank for being here. Super
excited to have you on the call today.
Steve Olsher: Yeah man.
Well I'm super excited to be here with you.
Aaron Kennard: Well, let's just jump right in to
this. First of all, quick introduction. Steve Olsher,
best selling author, wrote "What Is Your
WHAT". I'm truly honored to have you on the
phone today to discuss that. Just tell us briefly about yourself. Where you
are, what your family situation is and then we'll jump into this call about
what it means to live a truly amazing life.
Steve Olsher: Cool man.
Yeah, life long entrepreneur, started out as a DJ
number of years ago and moved into the night club business, and catalogue
business, and real estate, and .coms. I mean, you
name it and I've probably done it over the years. Including selling speakers
out of the back of a van. You know If you remember that old thing. "Hey
buddy, we happen to pick up a couple of extra speakers that didn't make it into
the invoice, so are you interested?"
Aaron Kennard: You really did that. Nice.
Steve Olsher: So yeah. I'm
not ashamed to admit that I've waited tables, pump gas, and do whatever else
needed to be done to make ends meet there. For about the past 4 or 5 years now,
I've really been focused on writing and speaking. And my work, specifically, centers on helping poeple
discover, share, and monetize the one thing they were born to do. And that was
the focus of the latest book, "What Is Your WHAT, Discover The ONE Amazing
Thing You Were Born To Do" which was released by Wiley in 2013 and
subsequently hit the New York Times best seller list.
Aaron Kennard: That's awesome. That's really cool.
And you wrote a number of other books before that right? One or two?
Steve Olsher: I did. Yeah.
The most popular book that I've got except for this one is a book called
Internet Prophets which is spelled P-R-O-P-H-E-T-S. And the subject on that was
the world's leading experts reveal how to profit online and that one did pretty
good as well.
Aaron Kennard: That's cool. Well thanks for that
quick introduction. Let's jump into this, the topic of today's discussion which
is really what makes life truly amazing. So Steve, let me just ask you, for
you, what is it that makes life truly amazing to you right now?
Steve Olsher: I've got to
be honest and you and I have had the pleasure of chatting a little bit so you
know I have my days man. I've come to the realization that I suffer from
depression. And I've suffered really for decades. And kind of comes and goes.
You know, wether it stemmed from childhood or I don't
know. But I'm not the most... I have my fun I'm just kind of a plateau kind of
guy. Like we hit the New York Times best seller list and you would think that
would be cause for celebration right? And you know, people would be wanting to
throw huge parties. This, that, and the other. And it was suggested that we do
that and I just... It's kind of like, "Okay man, that's great! Now, what's
next?". And so, you know it's interesting. I think when you grow up with a
lot of chaos, you kind of become comfortable with things being a little more
even keeled. You now it's a double edged sword. And so for me amazing is a
relative term. Amazing for me is just having a good day where I feel good, and
where I have good positive interactions, and where I feel a closeness and a
kinship to my family. I mean those really are amazing days. And because the
work that I do where I'm able to help people really bring to the surface what
it is they're truly compelled to do. When I see them light up and figure out
what that is, that to me is an amazing experience.
Aaron Kennard: I like it. I really appreciate your
blunt honesty because a lot of times, people from the stage, and people see
people like yourself figureheads and people that are out there speaking out and
teaching people how to really find their calling a passion as, "Wow,
they've got it all.". And while that may be true that doesn't mean that
they don't feel and go through the emotional ups and downs that everybody else
goes.
Steve Olsher: Yeah,
exactly. I've had the good fortune of meeting some pretty successful people.
And I can tell you that when the camera is not on, they're just pretty much
just like me and you. They just have a different job. I think that we have a
tendency to kind of idolize those that we think are living the dream and
perhaps some of them are. In per all relative definitions but at the same
token, I do believe that we put a little too much stock in to others as opposed
to really trying to just create our own definition of what this life needs to
be and can be.
Aaron Kennard: That's really interesting. When you
said that... When you talk about that word, amazing. And for you that it's just
having a good day, and feeling good, and feeling... You mentioned something
about connection to the people around you I think. I would guess I would say
"What else is there?". For me that's what it is for me too. Amazing
is feeling good. When I look at times in the past when I wasn't really feeling
like life was all that amazing, it was like it was mediocre, or lackluster, or that I was having bad day or was frustrated
a lot. And so I'd say, it sounds like even now, you experience days like that.
That are truly amazing to you that are filled with that sense of peace and
happiness even amidst feeling depression sometimes or how is that?
Steve Olsher: Yeah, I mean
because I am able to still live beyond the waves that hit. So I think if I was
down all of the time, then I probably need to be checked in somewhere. I mean
there had been plenty of moments where I felt like that might be the best
course of action. But reality is, when a good day comes to pass, where there
are just things that are enjoyable. And that to me is honestly about as good as
it gets.
Aaron Kennard: So when you say that it is that good
day and the things are enjoyable, what is it about that day that makes it good?
what is it about that day that makes it amazing? You eluded to this, the thing
that's most fulfilling to you is really watching other people light up and find
their passion in life?
Steve Olsher: Yeah, it
always is tied to some form of connectivity whether it's a connection to my
wife, or to my kids, or to someone that I'm working with, or having a converstation with someone like you. It's really just when,
there is that sense of connection. And I think ultimately that's what we crave
as beings on this planet is that sense of connection. And when that connection
lacks or when there is a feeling of being outside of the zone of comfort. I
think that's when things tend to spiral, at least for me.
Aaron Kennard: So when you say that connection, are
you referring to just connection with others? Or are you also referring to with
yourself or with anything? Like a higher power or anything like that?
Steve Olsher: Yeah, you
know it's interesting because from what I've been able to gather over the years
and trying to understand more and more about whoI am,
I really can't say that I've ever truly felt connected with this being that I
am. It's really hard. It really deep in terms of who we actually are or what we
actually are. For me, it's more of a connecting of souls and I don't think.. I
mean it's possible to do that obviously on you own.
But for me, the energy really gets fed from the souls of others. Not to say
that I'm a vampire, like a psychic vampire if they're are known. But there is
again something about sort of the two souls being able to connect in a
meaningful way that is something you just can't experience on your own.
Aaron Kennard: And that's where, it sounds like for
you, is that where you gain a lot of that joy in life is that connectivity to
other people in various forms.
Steve Olsher: It is. Those
are typically the days that I would define as being amazing, for sure.
Aaron Kennard: So the days that are not, or the days
that don't feel so amazing, the days when you're down, your discouraged and
you're despairing. I'll tell you, I can relate. I've been around numerous
people that have been suffering severe depression and I've personally suffered
it. Like through just last fall when I had this life threatening illness and I
was stuck in the hospital. I had major anxiety attacks, I had really many
hopeless feelings and despair, and I experienced along this really fast, short
term, hyper concentrated state. So I didn't experienced it over years, like
maybe you have or like a lot of other people have. But I can tell you that I
can relate. So on those days, when you're just despairing, then what? What is
missing on those days from your perspective? It sounds like the connection is
not there. Maybe your alone a lot or what is it?
Steve Olsher: Yeah, you
know it's like.. It''s funny, so I've got a 10-year
old and a 7-year old as of this recording and so a lot of my references go back
to Spongebob. So if you've never watched spongebob then your missing out
on that. There's this one episode where..
Aaron Kennard: I have a 9-year old and a 7-year old
by the way, so yeah.
Steve Olsher: Yeah, so you
get it. So there's this one episode where Spongebob
is basically trying to help Patrick thorugh his
issues of never having won an award and he's just really upset because he's
never won a trophy and doesn't feel very successful. And Patrick and Spongebob are just kind of at this point where they're
going back and forth and Patrick said to himself, "At least I'm safe
inside my mind.". And it's just like this classic moment of Partick kind of turning inward. Or is that Spongebob? I don't know if it's Spongebob
or Partick that says it. But it's just this line that
sticks with me which is, "At least I'm safe inside my mind.". And ofcourse at that moment, he's not at all safe inside his
mind, because his Patrick. His a starfish, and if you haven't seen he show, you got to see the show. But it's just.. It's
interesting that when I'm at my worst, it's usually not safe inside my mind. I
think that's the best way to put it.
Aaron Kennard: It's like you need to be outside. You
need the other people to help pull you outside of your mind.
Steve Olsher: Absolutely.
I mean I become my own worst enemy in that moment.
Aaron Kennard: Yeah, well you're not alone. That is
so common. Wether you have a diagnosable case of
depression, everybody has a different range of that particular feeling. I feel
that. I feel unsafe in my own mind. I have a great love for life. I really love
it. I really enjoy it. I also find a lot of my joy in helping other people
enjoy life and that connectivity. But I do find a lot of joy on my own as well
and with connecting to myself, it's a big part of my life. I was curious to
hear your feedback on that. I liked to ask that question but what I was getting
at was... I still, even just last week had this time where it was this battle
of my own mind, this control. I mean we're all growing through thesethings. It's not like we get to this place where we
find out that life is amazing and it's smooth sailing for any of us beyond
that. I quite frankly just think it's refreshing to hear and to talk about. Not
that I'm glad that you have suffered with negativity because I'm not. From that
stand point, I think it's just great that you're open to talking about it in
public like this and not hiding from it.
Steve Olsher: Yeah and the
best way that I kind of summarize things is that life for me has always been a
grind. It's just.. It's never.. I'm not saying that I've ever missed a meal, Im not sayin I haven't had the
things that I need sustenance wise to survive. And for those that have suffered
without a roof over their head, or food to eat, or clothes on their back,
etcetera. You know to me it's like, I'm sure some of them are going,
"Boohoo Steve! I mean really? What on Earth do you have to really be
depressed about?". There are certain things that I know those with very
few material possesions and very little material
wealth and are among the most happiest people that I've ever met. I just have
never been able to come to that sense of peace and attain that sense of peace
where it doesn't feel like a grind. Perhaps that's the entrepreneurial spirit
of having to go at it alone and feeling compelled to go at it alone and build
everything. But even in my relationships. And I take full responsibilty
for my role in my relationships. Every realationship
is 50/50, two-way street. And I know I'm not the easiest person to live with,
to be with, any of that. Which contributes me then to the grind that I'm
sensing and that ofcourse then beceomes
a very vicious circle. So it's those who don't have the same challenges with
the grind. I guess that's the best way to put it.
Aaron Kennard: And you say you've always had that
throughout your life. Pretty much throughout at all?
Steve Olsher: Yeah. we
don't have to get into a therapy session here but you know. Reality is that it
stems really from having to kind of fight my way through upstream. Now this is
really from a monetary standpoint or sustenance standpoint. To some extent from
a survival standpoint.
Aaron Kennard: Yeah, interesting. So this take a
different flow then from the interview, which is totally fine because I like
exploring this question. I don't want there to be this one road can't answer.
We're all human being individuals and I believe there's something valuable for
somebody listening right now to be gained from hearing your perspective on
this. And just from sharing straight from the heart about this. And I'll just
tell you my perspective is that I felt that grind at various points of my life.
I felt that and there were moments of clarity where I was able to feel kind of
beyond that. And so I feel that sentiment when you say that. I feel that
envious that you say, like I know what you're talking about. That you feel like
you want because I've experienced that. And I don't mean to say that like,
"Hey I've got it and you don't.", I'm just giving the contrast that
it is absolutely possible to get out of that grind and everybody just got a
different path or a different way on that. And I don't know whose, I don't know
what your path is or why this is happening for you and your life but I think its interesting to analyze. I generally like to find out
about a story, time of your life, that kind of impacted you most, change your
perspective. And it sounds like you've got a lot of stories that have lead to
your perspective today. Has there been any one story that you can think of from
your life that lead you to more joy? Or has it been...
Steve Olsher: Yeah. Even
the moment that really lead me towards my current work is not exactly one that
I would define as being joyful. But it really stemmed from an experience I had
about 5 years ago where I was with my stepfather who raised me from the age of
10. I was with him in his final days, he was on his death bed. And I was
holding his hand and while he can no longer verbally communicate I believe that
we were able to connect through that point in a physical touch because while I
was holding his hand I had a vision of my funeral. Not of his funeral but
actually of mine. And literally I was lying in the casket, and it was dark and
damp, and I was being lowered into the Earth and I could see a bit of daylight
through a couple of holes but I could hear very clearly what was going on outside
of me. I could hear those words which were being spoken I think by a preacher,
or rabbi, or whoever it might have been, and it was basically, "Here lies
Steve Olsher, he dedicated his life to chasing the
almighty dollar.", and that's all that was said. It hit me really hard
because up into that point I was really been focusing on the dollar and had
been a commodity or into driven entrepreneur. And I strongly believe that my
stepfather was saying, "Hey this is your inevitable fate unless you change
course.". And I didn't know what to do but I knew that he was right. I
mean I've always had sort of this nagging kind of like, tugging at my collar
type feeling that I was meant and made to do something extraordinary but I
really didn't know what that is and what that was. So again, I really didn't
know what to do at that point but I knew I had to do something different. And
so, that's when I really began putting pen to paper to share some of the tips,
and tools, and strategies, and shortcuts that had worked well for me in my life
in the hopes of potentially helping others. You know again, my life is
definitely not perfect by any structure of the imagination but I think without
some of those strategies, Lord only knows where I would be in this moment. And
so I know a lot of that I was writing and eventually began to teach works. It's
a very powerful system that can help people deal with life as it happens. And
as I kept writing, kept working, and kept teaching, that's when I began developing
this framework for helping people discover what it is that they're truly
compelled to do. I've always really had this nagging type, tugging at my collar
type feeling that I was meant and made to do something extraordinary and I knew
that I really did want to have impact now on those who share this lifetime with me but also on those of the
lifetimes to come. I just didn't know what would make that happen. So that was
the path that I've forged where it became a necessity to move forwawrd with eliminating some of those elements of my life
that really were dragging me down.
Aaron Kennard: Was that like other businesses and
stuff?
Steve Olsher: Businesses,
and people, and activities. Yeah, all of the above.
Aaron Kennard: And so that was 5 years ago when you
had that turning point, that situation with your step father?
Steve Olsher: Yeah. I now
refer that as a Ye-no moment, a yes-no moment. Ye-no moments are that fork in the road where you're faced
with that moment of truth, that epiphany, that come to Jesus, or whatever you
want to call it, it's just you've got a choice. One direction leads you towards
becoming who you were born to be and aligns with who you inherently are and the
other that moves you in that aggresive fashion where
it really puts you away from your core self. And so for me it was really a
matter of taking that former path and again I got a long way to go down it but
certainly at this stage I'm much closer, I believe to who I am inherently am
than I've ever been.
Aaron Kennard: That's cool, so that was a major
transition for you and what did that do for you from the standpoint of feeling?
I mean at that time you had this big wake up call. You know you're on a better
path. You know you made a choice that was good because it's speaking to your
soul and helping other people. You don't feel the same potential regret like if
you died today, you knew you just chased the almighty dollar your whole life.
You know right now you chose to change your life and to do things that were
more impactful for people, right?
Steve Olsher: Yeah, and
you know I think it's really just important for others to understand that I'm
not knocking the commodity oriented businesses. I mean, people need
calculators, and you need pens, I get all that. But I had done that for 20
something years and it just reached the point where I really felt as though..
Like real estate is a perfect example. If I die tomorrow, my tenants wouldn't
be lining up to pay their respects, they'd be lining up trying to figure out
where to send next month's rent.
Aaron Kennard: And so, what is it then? Explain what
it is then that made you feel so called and so passionate to switch gears to
change.
Steve Olsher: Yeah, I mean
again it was that vision and it was getting out of denial because I think so
many of us spend a lifetime in denial about who we really are and how we're
wired to excel. And that denial takes multiple forms. I mean it can be excuses
like "I don't have the time.", "I don't have the money.",
"I don't have the knowledge.", "People want to prove.",
"How am I going to start over.", etcetera, etcetera. And for me it
was just really a matter of saying that, "Who am I living this life
for?", and "What is it exactly that I hope to leave after I'm
gone?". Steve Jobs talked about how you're going to leave your dent on the
world. That was one of his famous expression and that's really what it boiled
down to for me. You know, the real estate was great and provides people with a
nice place to live. The commodity products that I was selling are great and
needed. But again, I believe that those paths were really based on following
the whims and agendas of others. And as we shift towards what I now call, the
empowerment economy, I think it's more important than it's ever been for us to
be very very clear on the natural, unique, singular
talents that we bring to the table and how we become the solution to someone
else's problem.
Aaron Kennard: That's really cool. So what is? I
mean you talked about obviously in the book. Your book title is "What is
you WHAT". For you, "What is your WHAT" then?
Steve Olsher: Yeah, it's a
really good question and I'm not egotistical enough to sit here and say that
I've completely honed in on it. I know that I very much enjoy helping people
discover what theirs is. And so, I don't want to sound like a cop-out but in a
way I do find a lot of fulfillment by helping people
discover what it is they are truly compelled to do. And so, the equstion of being able to answer the question "What is
you WHAT" involves first, being clear on what your gifts are, then
understanding the vehicle that you will use to share those gifts with the
world, and then the people that you're most compelled to serve. And so my gifts
are all aligned with communication, in one form or another, either in person
communication or written communication, etcetera. So that clearly allows me to
use those gifts. I can write, and I can speak, and I can teach. And then the
vehicle I use to share those gifts with the world is.. It's not laser focus
because it involves a couple of different media, it all revolves around
teaching and speaking. I mean those are the two core elements of that vehicle
and then I am truly compelled and fired up to work with people who are looking
for what's next. And maybe they've had
tremendous success and are looking to do something
different. Or maybe they've had no succes by all
practical definitions whatsoever and are looking to take that first step.
Aaron Kennard: Which is why you are known by a lot
of people as the reinvention expert right?
Steve Olsher: Yeah,
exactly. America's reinvention expert is a moniker that I've picked up over the
years because i do.. You know it's interesting right,
it's like forest for the trees, I can.. If you and I sat down for a half hour I
could 3x your business in a 120 days. I mean easy, you know, so it's just a
gift that I have.
Aaron Kennard: Hey let's talking about the wrong
thing. Let's change gears. [laughs]
Steve Olsher: [laughs] You
know. And so yeah man, it's just.. It's really interesting to see how, as I get
deeper in to this work, that my what becomes clear. But is it completely 100%
in focus at this moment? No, but again I also do believe that life is organic.
Aaron Kennard: Yeah, I mean does it have to be? Like
can your "what" change on the different seasons in your life or does
it have to the same thing your whole rest of your life or what?
Steve Olsher: Well you
know and that's a great question. In my way of thinking, the vehicle that you
use to share your gifts with the worl and the people
you're compelled to serve can change. And that's typically a reflection of life
experiences, like things that happen to you. For whatever reason, something
happened and you became exposed to X and therefor
you're now compelled to do Y. But I do
believe that your gifts are really a part of your DNA. They are a part of your
blueprint. And I don't believe that those change.
Aaron Kennard: Yeah, but then they get manifested in
various different ways like you said, through the vehicle and the people that
you're serving at different times throughout you life or in different ways.
Steve Olsher: Yup,
absolutely.
Aaron Kennard: That's really cool. Well, let's shift
gear a little bit. You saw my.. The Twelve Pillars of a Truly Amazing life, the
poster sitting behind me.
Steve Olsher: That's easy.
Aaron Kennard: Yeah. Tell me, which one stands out
most to you right now and why?
Steve Olsher: To me it's
all about "Creation" because I believe that there's only two types of
people. And sometimes, we take on both roles in various forms and times of our
lives, but there's really only Critics and Creators. And it's really easy to be
a critic and it's super hard to be a creator. I mean whoever listens to this,
I'm sure that they have had their criticisms since we started. Why, where, and
when and that hah.
Aaron Kennard: Because it's snowing outside. Come
on, give me a break. [laughs]
Steve Olsher: You know,
why doesn't Steve get closer to the camera. You know, why our air is so bad and
choppy. You know, I mean it's like..
It's just so easy to be a critic and it's super hard to be a creator. Most
people stop craeting at a very young age. The
question is, when is the last time you created? Not because you had to, but
simply because you wanted to. And when did you put something forth, for the
world to judge? When is the last time that you've done that? And for so many
people, the answer is so long ago that they can't even remember.
Aaron Kennard: That's cool. I like the way you put
that. That's a powerful principle for sure. Is there any one books, or any one
book i should say, that you'd recommend to people? I
think you offer a very unique position and I'm going to ask you the final
question before we go is to give us a final parting piece of wisdom from
yourself of what you've learned about how to live a truly amazing life. And
from your perspective of dealing with a challenging circumstance, dealing with
the oppression. What's the thing that help you most? What the book, first of
all, that has maybe helped you the most in that regard and how to live in
finding those pieces of joy even amidst very big challenges?
Steve Olsher: Yeah, I've
always been enamored with the human condition and the
principles of success. And not because I'm overly concerned about material possesions, but just because I've dealt with depression for
decades. How do people create lives of purpose, power, and conviction where
they seemingly have impact that is meaningful to them. And so from that
perspective, I've always been a big fan of autobiographies. I just love reading
about how someone got to where they are today. So you name it, Richard Branson
"Losing my Virginity", right? Great book.
Aaron Kennard: So is that one you've read more
recently? An autobiography that you've read more recently that you would
recommend?
Steve Olsher: So the most
recent autobiographies that I've read are, Walter Isaacson "Steve
Jobs", which I know so many people have read and rightly so. And also Bill
Clinton's "My Life" and now that's going on a number of years already
but it's a really big book. It takes a lot to go through it. So a really
interesting story as well. You know even Sumner Redstone's
autobiography I really enjoyed and Sam Walton's as well. A lot of these books
have been out now for quite some time.
Aaron Kennard: So the autobiographies really just
really speaks to you?
Steve Olsher: They do.
Again, it's about the journey and one of the things that I say is that
"The Destination is the road, and the journey is the destination". I
really do enjoy learning about other people's journeys and what they've done.
Aaron Kennard: Well it's really interesting. In
talking to you, I look at these pillars of a truly amazing life and I look at
you and I look at your openess, you embody so many of
these things even though you are dealing with depression. I think this should
be a resounding hopeful thing for people to hear that it's not like all or one
of the other. Like you have your moments of joy and I really just honor you. In talking to you, and looking at the way you're
still out creating. You're still out smiling. When somebody is looking at you,
you wouldn't tell that youare suffering mentally at
all because you're smiling. You're taking that action. You're being creative,
you're succeeding, you're empowering others. I mean you're living and you're
loving, you're standing here at no personal gain just to share openly. I just
want to highlight that for people to see, you are embodying most of these
pillars of a truly amazing life that I teach and that I feel are what makes
life truly amazing for me and I honor you for that.
And I want to wrap up, http://steveolsher.com/, that is your website right?
Steve Olsher: That's the
main website, yeah. I mean If.. I'll just grab it here. But if people are.. So
this is the book tghat you were referring to,
"What Is Your WHAT, Discover The ONE Amazing Thing You Were Born To
Do". If anyone is interested in the
book, you can go to http://whatisyourwhat.com and then put a /free. And you can
grab a free copy of that book.
Aaron Kennard: Nice. Fantastic. So yeah, go to
http://whatisyourwhat.com/free/, get a free copy of Steve's book and read it.
Again, I really appreciate you coming on the line. It's been cool to talk from
this perspective. Can you leave us with one more, just a final parting part of
wisdom, the thing that help you most to really find joy despite the challenges
you face?
Steve Olsher: You know
it's a great question. The thing that really helps me push through is a quote
that I can't even take credit for. It came from Andrea Robinson who's one of my
coaching students in my program, the Circle of Ten. And what she said that it
took her almost 60 years to realize that she is the solution to someone else's
problem. And I know that I mentioned that earlier in the interview, but it's
just so powerful and it's what really helps keep me focus on continuing to do
the work that I'm doing. Because when we keep what we have within and we don't
share of ourselves with others, we're not only doing ourselves a huge
disservice, but we are truly impacting those who are wating
for us to share what is uniquely ours with as many as possible. It's a mantra
that I try to keep in mind and it's funnny as you're
giving me the compliments about my openness, and honesty, and how I embody the
pillars, etcetera. The fighter-flight in me really deflects that.
Aaron Kennard: Wants to deny it?
Steve Olsher: Right. And litereally like, I was tearing up as you were saying that
because it just so hard for me to just simply receive that. And that's what I
encourage people to think about. The world is waiting for you and whatever it
is that you're fighting through, it's worth the battle and just stay in the game.
Aaron Kennard: Thank you for receiving it. I'm going
to re-emphasize it. I don't think you can hear it enough, I don't think people
can hear it enough that I appreciate, I respect you for being out, for being in
the game right now because I know how hard it is to just step out and get
outside of yourself when you're feeling like crap. And when you're feeling down
mentally, it's hard to go out. You don't want to go be around people. When you
talk about connectivity, that's the most helpful thing for you and yet that's
the last thing you want to go do. I know because I know plenty of people that
have had that and I've been there. You don't want to talk to people. And so for
you to be here talking to me, I think it's awesome man. I'm here to talk
anytime you ever want to. And I appreciate and applaude
you seriously. For getting out and just receive it man. You deserve it and I
love the fact that you're out living the pillars despite the challenges. It's
fantastic example to people. Thank you so much for being here.
Steve Olsher: Thanks man.
Yeah and thank you for doing what you're doing and you continue to share your
gifts man. Absolutely, thank you for having me on.